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Aberdeen villas conjoined in Ferryhill apartment bid

June 15 2021

Aberdeen villas conjoined in Ferryhill apartment bid

Cater Group with Neil Rothnie Architecture have filed a change of use application to transform a former Aberdeen care home into 26 apartments.

Located within the Ferryhill Conservation Area the work will necessitate the demolition of Maryfield Lodge, a traditional single-storey building, which will be replaced with a new build block finished in traditional granite and slate with sash and case windows.

This will connect to the refurbished Maryfield East property next door by way of a modern 'link block' formed from vertical timber to connect both sites.

Promoting their design approach the applicant wrote: "The link block will be finished using vertical timber of random widths to form a rain screen style cladding with a set-off from the main structure and with gaps between to allow the windows behind to be partly visible.

"To the rear façade, this block will be finished with a grey render (K-Rend or equal) and will have larger glazed openings to take benefit from the southern aspect."

As part of the works, the original care home car park off Whinhill Road will be extended to provide 17 spaces with a further four off Fonthill Road, each with an EV charging point. 

An existing lodge house will be demolished to make way for the build
An existing lodge house will be demolished to make way for the build


#1 Posted by mick on 15 Jun 2021 at 14:00 PM
Excuse Me ! Are we supposed to be impressed by this proposal ?
#2 Posted by Exhausted on 15 Jun 2021 at 16:02 PM
The architect in question was erased from the register not too long ago - a decision upheld upon appeal.

Not sure if UR can publish links to external sites - but industry articles can be found easily.

It's (in my opinion at least) a damaging shame that certain people are able to circumvent the rules / restrictions and still participate in the industry following damning evidence againt. If someone is found guilty (and decision upheld) of 'unacceptable professional conduct and serious professional incompetence' then they should not be allowed to continue in the profession.
#3 Posted by FHM on 15 Jun 2021 at 18:34 PM
#2 that may be well and true, but until ARB actually protect the Function of Architects rather than just the Title, then they shall forever remain a pointless and bloated quango who hand out measly fines and enable any Tom, Dick or Harry to design buildings.
Ben Jones
#4 Posted by Ben Jones on 16 Jun 2021 at 11:35 AM
The government should change the law so that the planning application for any building (no matter what size) that is designed for human habitation must be approved by an ARB registered architect.

The current system is not fit for purpose, you have people with no qualifications whatsoever designing buildings for human habitation.

Go through planning portals for different local authorities and look at who designed the accommodation and try and search their credentials, you will find so many people that have no credentials.

You also have people who call their company 'Architectural Services' at best that is often just someone with Architectural Technician training and they are not a proper ARB registered Architect, sometimes they have some kind of basic surveying training and sometimes they have no qualifications at all.

Gas Engineers are legally not allowed to open a gas boiler unless they are Gas Safe registered, there should be something similar for buildings designed for human habitation, as I mentioned they should make it so that any planning application for one must be approved by an ARB registered architect.

As people have mentioned here this was designed by someone who was struck off from the ARB for dangerous practice, but under the current system is allowed to carry on designing buildings a unperturbed.
#5 Posted by modernish on 16 Jun 2021 at 17:08 PM
@#4 - simple question; why?
The designer of this scheme used to be on the ARB's registered as practiced as an architect for 40 years. He was, by your criteria, allowed during that period to design building 'for human habitation'. Do you want to go back and tear all his other building down, just in case?
Architecture and architects do a hang of a lot more than design dwellings. Is it ok, in your world, for a "person with no qualifications whatsoever" (there are very few people in that category, most have got a couple of standard grades) to design an art gallery, office, court building, factory, airport etc..?
Protectionism isn't the answer. Architects just need to demonstrate the additional quality that their particular skills bring.
#6 Posted by Cadmonkey on 16 Jun 2021 at 17:48 PM
Give it a rest.

Frank Lloyd Wright, Corbusier, Mies Van Der Rohe, Tadao Ando, Carlo Scarpa, etc…. All had no formal training as architects.
#7 Posted by Exhausted on 16 Jun 2021 at 21:33 PM
Training or not (not actually my main concern) - if you are found guilty of 'unacceptable professional conduct and serious professional incompetence' then you lose the right to continue working in the field. That should go for any sector / industry / job.
#8 Posted by Barbs on 16 Jun 2021 at 21:52 PM
Architecture is one of the most skilled professions out there (not as skilled as doctor but still pretty skilled), yet is is one of the most unregulated.

#2 is right, any Tom, Dick or Harry can submit a design, it is madness. People should be trained to a certain standard.

There are lots of dangerous buildings out there in terms of construction safety and a lot more will be built with the lack of standards.

Local authorities just don't have the manpower to investigate all the dodgy designs being summitted by all untrained amateurs.
A former Architect
#9 Posted by A former Architect on 18 Jun 2021 at 07:50 AM
Registration of Architects did not prevent the perfect storm of corruption that was Grenfell.
As deep throat has it, always, 'follow the money'.

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