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Peel press ahead with £200m Glasgow harbour masterplan

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March 15 2016

Peel press ahead with £200m Glasgow harbour masterplan
Glasgow Harbour is to press ahead with the construction of 1,400 homes at the confluence of the River Clyde and Kelvin on a 52 acre development site opposite the city’s new Transport Museum.

Incorporating a range of commercial, retail and leisure uses the £200m ADF Architects masterplan will include a riverfront walkway, cinema, pedestrian footbridge as well as a range of bars and restaurants.

Peel’s director of residential development Neil Baumber commented: “The ‘Strategic Waters’ sites give us a fantastic portfolio of locations to develop exciting new residential dwellings. This is all about regenerating urban areas, where there is a shortage of housing, into attractive waterfront locations where young professionals, families, downsizers and key workers can live.”

The proposal follows submission of plans for a 13 storey student residential tower at Scotway House.
A mix of flats and townhouses will be built on the 52 acre site
A mix of flats and townhouses will be built on the 52 acre site

22 Comments

Sue Pearman
#1 Posted by Sue Pearman on 15 Mar 2016 at 09:19 AM
'safe' is the most positive comment I just heard about this.... lacking ambition or aspiration might be less safe to say.
Glesga Boy
#2 Posted by Glesga Boy on 15 Mar 2016 at 09:34 AM
Good luck getting the Glen Lee/Waverley under that bridge.
Stephen
#3 Posted by Stephen on 15 Mar 2016 at 09:38 AM
This needs to be housing led. The current scheme talks about housing but looks like any out of town cinema/bowling/Nandos/car park (see Springfield Quay).
Great site, great location, great new waterfront connection and great that there's investment but the current 'design' is horrendous.
Dogs Die In Hot Cars
#4 Posted by Dogs Die In Hot Cars on 15 Mar 2016 at 11:00 AM
A huge car park for a site 1 minute from Partick Rail and Subway Stations.

Not good.
Stephen
#5 Posted by Stephen on 15 Mar 2016 at 11:32 AM
..oh, and there's a listed building on this site as per the aerial view (bottom left). Totally ignored in the design and dwarfed by some plastic travel lodge looking thing! Wouldn't that instead be a good place to start designing a piece of city, as opposed to a tin-pot 'leisure destination'.
ADF are either having their hands tied or they're not able to do this properly for whatever reason. This needs stepping up enormously.
Big Chantelle
#6 Posted by Big Chantelle on 15 Mar 2016 at 11:42 AM
The concrete modernists brigade: Glesga harbur edition.

-Wonky, weird angled buildings: aye!
-Blank, featurless waws wae nuthin on thum: aye!
-Surface carparking so that Big Moira fae Easterhoose can park her new Subaru which she borowed coz her son Keanu is Barlinnie: aye!
-Grey cladding coz ye cannae huv enough grey on the clyde:aye!

Can yoos no see how rubbish this stuff is? Wit aboot it is it that yoo lot like?

Aw these left wing utopian visions prove time an time again tae be utter nonsense. But round of applause tae the cheerleaders here becoz yoos are aboot tae plank the Anderton centre ontae the clyde. Shameful.

But hey, at least it's no 'pastiche'. Right guys?
sigh
#7 Posted by sigh on 15 Mar 2016 at 11:45 AM
@stephen That building sadly won't last. It mysteriously caught on fire recently and has since had heras fencing put up around it with demolition notices... sigh.

And yes, that surface car park - c'mon, just get rid of it or, if you *really* must have parking, stick it underground or at the very least in an integrated multi-storey structure of some kind.
Dogs Die In Hot Cars
#8 Posted by Dogs Die In Hot Cars on 15 Mar 2016 at 12:36 PM
"Wit aboot it is it that yoo lot like?"

Pretty much nothing.

What Big Chantelle doesn't seem to get is that the "concrete modernists brigade" don't appear to like much of the new architecture on Urban Realm either. Nobody wants to see architecture like this. Nobody is applauding. Her whole persona is railing against someone or a group who don't even exist.

It's a bit tragic really. That and incredibly boring.
E=mc2
#9 Posted by E=mc2 on 15 Mar 2016 at 13:03 PM
Springfield Quay v0.2 (beta 2)

No lessons learnt
No expense spent
modernish
#10 Posted by modernish on 15 Mar 2016 at 13:49 PM
@#6 - Would Big Moira not be better off going to the Fort? It seems an awfully long way for her to go to the cinema...
Boo radley
#11 Posted by Boo radley on 15 Mar 2016 at 13:53 PM
This is an exemplar scheme for diversity, no material is left out. The material discrimination team will be chuffed!
ellah
#12 Posted by ellah on 15 Mar 2016 at 15:12 PM
Please for g@d sake Glasgow go and see waterside regeneration in other places. Marseille, Hamburg, Copehagen - even LONDON. Not a surface level car park in site. Scotland has highest levels of obesity in the UK that enough should be enough to try and get people out of their cars.
Neil C
#13 Posted by Neil C on 15 Mar 2016 at 15:21 PM
The original post-Millennial Glasgow Harbour masterplan included a cinema, restaurants, et al. None of it came to fruition. I doubt this will, either. They didn't even get their Tesco shed.
Lover not a Warrior
#14 Posted by Lover not a Warrior on 16 Mar 2016 at 08:26 AM
I thought this would have been an outstanding site for a new stadium for the Glasgow warriors, a statement piece for the Clyde to compliment science centre, transport museum etc. Could be shared, bring Thistle back to Partick! This sadly looks like another Springfield Quay as already stated, huge distance from what is required
Matthew Ansell
#15 Posted by Matthew Ansell on 16 Mar 2016 at 10:08 AM
what ellah said...
Stephen
#16 Posted by Stephen on 16 Mar 2016 at 12:03 PM
@12/15. Totally agree. Glasgow has what must be one of the longer waterfronts in Europe to play with and still can't point to one decent development along it. How can the planners be so blind to its potential?
Without thinking too hard some simple requirements spring to mind:
- Good, public access to the water and waterfront from a high quality public realm.
- Good public spaces to gather, linger and play.
- High density housing (not high rise) which will provide the footfall and custom for local commerce alongside an inviting pedestrian realm.
- High quality materials (not white render, not catalogue picked bullnose cladding panels).
- Cars relegated to the periphery. Bikes and pedestrians given precedence.
- A modicum of commercial activity, predominately at ground level (not 12 storey call centres).
- Integrated public transport system.
- Appropriate, contextual architecture, respectful of but not deferential to Glasgow’s history of building (not a rogue's gallery of 'icons' (one of them's even called 'The Icon'!)).
Senga McSporran
#17 Posted by Senga McSporran on 16 Mar 2016 at 17:16 PM
Our very own little bit of Croydon - fortunately people make Glasgow
Charlie_
#18 Posted by Charlie_ on 17 Mar 2016 at 09:36 AM
There definitely doesn't appear to be 1400 flats in that render. Does that figure include future phases further up the kelvin?
George
#19 Posted by George on 17 Mar 2016 at 17:34 PM
I honestly feel like crying when I see these proposals. This site must be one of the best and most prominent undeveloped sites in Glasgow - is this honestly the best that they can rustle up?!
This looks like the Showcase cinema complex dumped on the Clyde. If Glasgow really has aspirations to be a global city this needs some serious improvement in quality to make it the key riverside development it could be.
ADF Architects - Please don't waste this once in a lifetime opportunity.
BNBEAT
#20 Posted by BNBEAT on 25 Mar 2016 at 12:00 PM
I'm no an expert, but this is chronic. It reeks of somewhere you'd end up on a wet Sunday afternoon with a very bad hangover as you had to get something from Argos.
Alistair Houston
#21 Posted by Alistair Houston on 15 Mar 2017 at 18:07 PM
Build it and sadly the listed got badly burned.
Billy
#22 Posted by Billy on 16 Mar 2017 at 01:30 AM
Very disappointing. And yet another cinema? To add to Clydebank, the Quay, Cineworld, Silverburn, the Forge. EK, GFT, Glasgow east and the proposed st Enoch and Buchanan Galleries. Is there really such demand for all of these screens all day 7 days a week? The waterfront is not being used to its full potential and all of the buildings along its stretch should showcase Glasgow, Low rise boxes deserve to be on industrial estates only. The BBC and STV studios are an embarrassment to a city that can boast of two great architects. You would expect something more eye catching, cutting edge from the world of Media. Functional inside but a yawn from the outside. Other cities are reversing there decreasing populations by attracting people from outwith their boundaries. Glasgow has to be more aggressive /persuasive in its pursuit of attracting more people to exciting new districts in prime locations. Leeds has overtaken Glasgow as 3rd most populous city in UK and projections suggest that Edinburgh could overtake Glasgow wirthin 50 years with population soaring to 750 000. And to think Glasgow once had over 1 million people within in its boundaries before the drift to new towns. Glasgow suffered depopulation on a larger scale than its competitors and currently has lowest growth. Someone somewhere is failing Glasgow.

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